TASC Chat Session 2


Tuesday, October 7, 2003
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tasc4judge: Hi Lewis....
LewisCHolcroft: Hello
tasc4judge: Ron logged on so the chat room would start. He will be here shortly.
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c a 85 r l: Hello. I'm Carl Hoge.
tasc4judge: Hello Carl....... how is the project coming?
LewisCHolcroft: Apparently chat room names are case sensitive. We should let folks know this for the future.
c a 85 r l: Quite well. We sent our first versions of our designs away today.
tasc4judge: Super........ any questions?
c a 85 r l: A question about the tunnel requirement...
tasc4judge: What is the question?.
c a 85 r l: First, all the batteries don't have to go through the tunnel, right?
tasc4judge: If the batteries have been previously delivered to an unload station, they don't need to go through the tunnel.
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tasc4judge: You must move the batteries on the transportation system (not around it) so if batteries are being moved, they must go through the tunnel.
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tasc4judge: Any other questions?
c a 85 r l: well...
c a 85 r l: we would like to have the tunnel above the belt itself.
c a 85 r l: so the batteries would go through the tunnel, but the whole belt would not
c a 85 r l: the tunnel would contain the batteries on the belt
c a 85 r l: do you know what I mean?
tasc4judge: I think you are proposing that the batteries and part of your transportation system will go thorugh the tunnel, but part of your control/transportation system would be above or below the tunnel.
tasc4judge: The intent is that the batteries need to go through the tunnel and the part that moves them be in the tunnel.
tasc4judge: Not all parts of the transportation system need to go through the tunnel.
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tasc4judge: Can you confirm that this is what you intend?
c a 85 r l: So if we had a conveyor belt... could just the batteries on top of the belt go through the tunnel?
c a 85 r l: the tunnel would be suspended just above the belt
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tasc4judge: Yes..... as long as the conveyor belt and the batteries go through the size tunnel specified, this meets the rules.
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tasc4judge: Any other questions?
c a 85 r l: so does the conveyor belt itself have to the through the tunnel?
tasc4judge: The tunnel must make contact with your landscape. If it doesn't, it isn't a tunnel, it is a canopy.
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c a 85 r l: Ok. sounds good.
tasc4judge: The hole in the tunnel is measured from where the tunnel meets the landscape... so you need a way to move the batteries through the tunnel.
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Sportsarekoo: hey hows it going
c a 85 r l: it won't be that hard to put the tunnel over the whole belt. We'll just do that
tasc4judge: You do not need to use the same means of moving the batteries through the entire system. You could use more than one.
tasc4judge: Putting the belt inside the tunnel meets the rules.
c a 85 r l: cool.
tasc4judge: We have approved 2 additional energy sources. Use of more than one bike pump and ethyl alcohol (for buring).
IntegYa: if we use to the same bike pump as the subsidy will we be charged for the 2nd one and paid for the 1st?
IntegYa: whoa
tasc4judge: You will be charged for each bike pump. They don't have a subsidy
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tasc4judge: Details are being posted on the current bike pump. If you can't exactly match it, the judges will set a price for the one you can find.
IntegYa: ooo
c a 85 r l: the price will be based on how much air it pumps, right?
IntegYa: nvm
tasc4judge: Yes........... we have the barrel dimensions, diameter, and psi and will normalize for the amount of air it pumps.
Sportsarekoo: wait i thought it is just one flat price for each pump
c a 85 r l: alright.
tasc4judge: There is a flat fee per pump for the pump we are providing at the competition.
tasc4judge: If you choose to use an extra pump, we will set a price per pump for the additional pump.
Sportsarekoo: ok
tasc4judge: Any other questions?
Sportsarekoo: yes
Sportsarekoo: we can combine our sorces to one cant we
Sportsarekoo: energy sorces
tasc4judge: Can you clarify?
IntegYa: combine wha?
tasc4judge: If the question is can you use more than one source... the answer is yes.
Sportsarekoo: combine the energy from wind solar and alternative
Sportsarekoo: example electricity
tasc4judge: If the question is can you store output from multiple energy sources and use the stored output.... the answer is yes.
tasc4judge: Did we understand your question?
Sportsarekoo: yeh thanks
tasc4judge: Any other questions?
Sportsarekoo: there should be more people talking in here
Sportsarekoo: for our group it is going well i hope you like our portfolio
tasc4judge: Have all of you sent int your preliminary portfolios?
tasc4judge: We judges get to see them tomorrow?
Sportsarekoo: yes sir our group did today
tasc4judge: Great..... what did you think of it.... will we like it?
Sportsarekoo: yeh i belive you will like it we put alot of time and effort into it to explain every thing
tasc4judge: Was it a good experience?
Sportsarekoo: yeh for this being my first yr. doing this i thought it was very good makes our group well orginized! We hope to get feed back from you judges thou
IntegYa: its fun working under pressure
tasc4judge: I hope it wasn't too much pressure. What schools are you from?
Sportsarekoo: haha that true
Sportsarekoo: river vally tech. center in Springfield vt
tasc4judge: Are all of you from River Valley Tech?
Sportsarekoo: well integys is with me and matthew garaffa...them 2 are from there also
tasc4judge: Hey....your school is well represented.
Sportsarekoo: haha thanks
tasc4judge: How early do you need to get up the day of the competition to get to UVM.
IntegYa: early
Sportsarekoo: yeh early
Sportsarekoo: lol
IntegYa: its a 2 hr drive
tasc4judge: I am hoping it is good weather.
tasc4judge: Have you figured out how to tranport your system?
Sportsarekoo: well we are talking about that
Sportsarekoo: but no madder what we will be there!!!
Sportsarekoo: :-)
tasc4judge: I look forward to meeting you
Sportsarekoo: yeh me too cant wait
tasc4judge: Any other questions?
IntegYa: 15 min
Sportsarekoo: how people doin on theres?
tasc4judge: We will plan on doing the chat room again next week. I think many teams may still be working on their portfolios.
Sportsarekoo: oh...were done
tasc4judge: I will stay in the chat room until 4 PM, but I'm not sure that others will be joining.
Sportsarekoo: same time next week?
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tasc4judge: Same time. Lewis do you to clarify the comment you made earlier?
Sportsarekoo: lewis ya there...haha
tasc4judge: The person who just entered is another judge. He was in my office, but he went back to his office and logged in.
IntegYa: what comment was that?
LineR973: That's me, I'm here!!
tasc4judge: Lewis had indicated earlier that the chat room is case sensitive.
Sportsarekoo: hello
tasc4judge: Did you have any trouble getting into the chat room?
Sportsarekoo: do you have any suggestions for the teams?
Sportsarekoo: no getting in here is easy
tasc4judge: Make sure you have the right set of the rules
tasc4judge: Use the ones at the website in Dawn Densmore's note.
Sportsarekoo: yes
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LewisCHolcroft: Lewis here. I had a small problem getting to the chat room. uvmtasc did not work but UVMTASC did. It could just be my chat client. I have no questions about the session. I will review the log later.
tasc4judge: THanks.......
tasc4judge: Did anyone else have trouble?
IntegYa: uvmtasc worked for me
Sportsarekoo: me too
Sportsarekoo: 5 min people ask questions
Sportsarekoo: well i glad you have this chat room
c a 85 r l: about electric wires...in the rules it says you can go from station to station. Is that all? can you have them running anywhere on the board?
c a 85 r l: like stapled to the surface
IntegYa: C\an you have a controller that just are switches to turn things on and off???
tasc4judge: The part of the rules talking about the wires is telling you that if you need to connect to control mechanisms (inside to outside) you can use the top of the stations
tasc4judge: You can also use the top of the stations to pass DC from the power supply to the middle.
tasc4judge: If you don't need to go to the middle, you don't need to.
tasc4judge: You can have wires anywhere inside the transportation system or the center that you want.
tasc4judge: If you are just connecting power to your system and want to just staple to the landscape, that is fine.
c a 85 r l: Ok. Thanks.
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IntegYa: now my question
tasc4judge: Yes
IntegYa: does the controller have to be in the area of the limitations of the device?
c a 85 r l: Thanks guys. See you next week (?), I assume.
Sportsarekoo: yeh thanks see yah next week
tasc4judge: I think you are asking if you can have a controller that you hold or have mounted on the edge of the lanscape. The answer is yes
tasc4judge: Is that what you meant?
IntegYa: like
IntegYa: what if ur 6ft from the device
IntegYa: outside the parameters
tasc4judge: You may run a wire to the device (I assume you are holding it) or you may use a battery operated device.
IntegYa: hmmm
tasc4judge: Batteries are allowed in the control device as long as they don't add energy to the system..
IntegYa: i c
tasc4judge: Is that what you were thinking about?
IntegYa: yeah
tasc4judge: Be careful with your wire that you don't do something unsave that will trip a team member
IntegYa: heh
Sportsarekoo: haha yeh good one
Sportsarekoo: you goin to post this convo to i assume to right?
tasc4judge: Thanks for joining........ the judges will be back next week.
Sportsarekoo: nice see you then
Sportsarekoo: later
tasc4judge: Lewis, do you have this in a format to post? I don't know how to do that.
IntegYa: save and upload to the ftp site?
IntegYa: and make a link?
IntegYa: hehe
LewisCHolcroft: No I don't. I did not turn on logging.
tasc4judge: I will try and make a copy and ask Mike if he can post it. It will likely work. It just won't look as nice.